Questioner: This sort of skirts that faith versus works issue that a lot of churches debate. Can you have faith without works? Are you saved by faith or are you saved by works?

The Council: Oh, we hear a lot of religious rhetoric this evening.

Questioner: Well, we just saw the movie "Luther."

The Council: If you have faith, you are going to have works. If you have works, you eventually will have faith. Are we dodging your question?

Questioner: No.

The Council: One cannot go without the other. One cannot be without the other. It is just a question of which is going to come first with the individual. It is like changing yourself. As it was mentioned earlier, garbage in, garbage out. Good in, good out. If you do not have faith, doing things of a goodly nature will stimulate that faith. Having faith will stimulate good deeds. You cannot have one without the other. It is just a question which will manifest first with an individual. Does that answer the question?

Questioner: Yes, it just makes me wonder why religious people have been arguing about this off and on for hundreds of years?

The Council: Well, that is one of the problems with man and his interpretation of God. He refuses to bring himself up to God's level. He constantly wants to drag God down to his level. Make God in man's image. That is impossible. That is impossible. When you do that, then you have mass murders in the name of God, which is a gross offense to Him, a gross offense. What makes the difference what you call your God? As long as you recognize that there is a Divine Presence and you have been conceived and given birth by that Divine Presence, period, end of discussion. No need for anything else. It is insignificant, immaterial, what you call the Father of your essence. You can call Him anything you choose. You can say He looks like anything you choose. It is not important. What is important is that you realize that all of you, all of us on this side, recognize only one Divine Presence. Of course, we have the benefit of not having a body, so we really do not see each other in terms of a figure, so to speak, or a carcass or container, so to speak. We see the love and the quality of that love, which in itself has a very defined body, not to your understanding, unfortunately, unfortunately. Very well.

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